Pipe Tobacco To Be Taxed At Roll-Your-Own Rates?

HR 4439, the Tobacco Tax Parity Act of 2010 was introduced on January 13, 2010 and would tax pipe tobacco at the same insane rate ($24.78 per pound) as roll-your-own tobacco from the current $2.8311 per pound. Introduced by Representatives Steve Cohen (Dem., TN) and Lloyd Doggett (Dem., TX), it has been referred to the House Ways and Means Committee of which Mr. Doggett, a staunch anti-smoking advocate, is a member.

This bill is not really aimed at pipe smokers as that segment of the population (estimated at .01% of US adults) is so small that the additional revenue generated by PIPE SMOKERS wouldn't cover the cost of pursuing this change. nothing more than an attempt to rope in taxes from roll-your-own cigarette enthusiasts who having been stung by this same price increase in their addiction last spring (thank you SCHIPs) have decided to start rolling pipe tobacco because it is suddenly cheaper real RYO tobacco (if you can call that stuff tobacco really).

Unfortunately, the RYO industry has brought this on to a certain extent because many brands/bags of RYO tobacco have been relabeled as pipe tobacco for taxation purposes. You can tell by looking at the type and the cut of the tobacco that no right-thinking brother of the briar would even consider sticking this trash in their pipe but the manufacturers have proudly changed their RYO packaging to crow that what they are selling is now pipe tobacco and should be taxed at a much lower rate.

Well now, those few of us that truly enjoy a pipe, whether meerschaum, briar or even the old American favorite corncob pipe are going to have to pay through the nose because of RYO smokers trying to inexpensively fuel their addictions AND the greed of corporate RYO tobacco producers.

However, all is not lost.

Contact your local representatives and put pressure on them to stop this bill. If we don't stop this now, it could spell the end of a tradition here in the US: the considered pursuit of the perfect smoke by brothers (and sisters) of the pipe as well as the end of the traditional Tobacconist as we know it.

SPEAK UP NOW AND SPEAK UP LOUDLY! 

In case you didn't link through to read the full text of this proposed bill, here is the full text of it as of today:

111TH CONGRESS
2D SESSION H. R. 4439
To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to impose the same rate
of tax on pipe tobacco as is imposed on roll-your-own tobacco.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
JANUARY 13, 2010
Mr. COHEN (for himself and Mr. DOGGETT) introduced the following bill;
which was referred to the Committee on Ways and Means
A BILL
To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to impose
the same rate of tax on pipe tobacco as is imposed
on roll-your-own tobacco.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

 

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Tobacco Tax Parity Act of 2010’’.

 

SEC. 2. PIPE TOBACCO AND ROLL-YOUR-OWN TOBACCO RATE PARITY.
(a) IN GENERAL.—Subsection (f) of section 5701 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by striking ‘‘$2.8311 cents’’ and inserting ‘‘$24.78’’.

 

(b) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The amendments made by this section shall apply to articles removed (as defined in section 5702(j) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986) after the date of the enactment of this Act.

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Gravatar Hello, Id first like to say that I too am against this unconstitutional tax, and all that preceeded it such as schip. I cant help but notice however, that the original poster, conciously or not, seems to reguard cigar and pipe smokers (pipe specificly), as seperate from and above other tobacco users.
"We truly believe that pipe and cigar smokers should not be unfairly penalized for their passion" as opposed to, "pay through the nose because of RYO smokers trying to inexpensively fuel their addictions". I can understand anger at the situation as I am still extreemly angry over schip, but to suggest that ryo smokers are at fault for the current legislation, or that ryo'er deserve to be unfairly burdened by the tax thieves and extortionists through unconstitutional, and unfair tax laws based on psuedo-scienctific research, is exactly what is hapening to you right now. If your anything like me, you will be very angry for a long time to come and will devote much of your free time to inform and educate somkers and non-smokers about the real dangers we face in allowing our government to continue on the path to complete control. I also noticed that in the authors eyes, the tobacco industry seems to be taking some blame. This industry flourished long before the US came to be independant of Brittan, and was Americas first export. I think that for them to attempt to temporarily relieve the tax burden on a group that went from paying $1.50 /pouch of ryo tobacco to paying $4.99 overnight, by changing the package and taking advantage of the same kind of loophole that all business looks for, is commendable given thier situation. some out there would collect taxes then claim the smaller tax class to the irs and keep the diference.
the point of the observations is to inform people of the need to unite as social groups such as smokers(all smokers) and as countrymen.
the latter will never be accomplished fully,(its simply impossible)and will not be accomplished in part untill the level of partisanship in politics is re-constructed to not be a divider of people and not create hate for fellow countrymen.
a few points about schip;
1 sales tax on tobacco is a tax on a tax. is that tax taxable? probably not.

2 25 million dollars of the initial revenue generated by schip is allocated to begain the soon to be famous war on obeasity. it starts with what youre already seeing, an uheard of number of caring organizations, dedicated to kids health, that youre just hearing of because they just got grant money from the 25 mil. which makes it much easier to care about the children.

3 a portion of the schip money ment to pay for kids healthcare "and other purposes" is allocated to pay a congressional committe to study the illeagle tobacco black market in the US (which didnt exist prior to the excessive tobacco taxes)and its effects on the amount of tax revenue generated, to decide weather to create new laws to imprison those not submitting schip taxes.

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this is an atempt by store owners to stop their places from being robbed nightly, as cigs are now a huge commodity. the government knew that this type of crime would skyrocket before they did it anyhow.

fact # 5- this will not stop! its like a dog with rabbies and MUST BE PUT DOWN!
I conclude that the authors anger, anthough understandable is mis-directed, and should be aimed at our government. one great American who probably agrees.
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Now there is a way to get tobacco that is just like ryo tobacco or pipe or whatever at low cost without being taxed. That way I am now in the process of making. It is called ceremonial tobacco. It bypasses tax under two forms, The American Indian (which I am part) and ceremonial which is religion. Religion the government cannot legally tax, at least not now.
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